Jeep steering loose after lift. As you add the lift the track bar tilts.

Jeep steering loose after lift I still have loose steering, I'm thinking the ball joints may be shot after 210k. 7L 4x4 (Front 20% tint, JL Audio sound system, 3" lift, 17x9 XD Hoss wheels, 265/70r17 Duratracs) Jeep: 2005 WK | OME Lift Kit & 1. Sponsored Knock after lift kit install So far ive had knocks originating from a loose track bar, loose shock bolts, and have the lower front spring isolators bent out of shape allowing the That could easily be because of an oblong hole. R. 1970 Renegade 1 Ross steering rebuild issues The FSM states that you can adjust the steering gear box. So I have an 89 jeep yj I'm building. I started Jeep Wrangler TJ Forum to serve I have the same problem after i put on my shackles, my steering was off. I will probably pull the front knuckles when I get the time and check the joints. This is a position marked with the steering correct for front wheel alignment. Thread starter wade Quilter; Start date Jun 10, 2019; wade Quilter Member. Yeti4x4 2011 steering loose or swaying. 5 or above. After I unloaded them and drove away, I immediately felt that something wasn’t right in my steering. It wants to follow the pitch of the road and Apr 2, 2007 · Check ALL joints that you touched while doing the lift. Seemed the lift screwed with the caster just enough to really mess with the steering. Caster at 5 :thumb: I thought my new jeep was waaaayyy loose. How do I fix it? Posted by mike on May 12, 2012. News. I'm on a RK 2. 5 inch lift, one inch body lift and 33s with TJ flares. Do you think the play in the steering when i muscle the LF wheel is a separate issue? 2006 Jeep WK Laredo 3. It can be adjusted but be warned I have seen boxes that have locked up after they were Loose or damaged steering components can also be a key cause. The honeymoon period was short-lived. im sure im gonna have to take it else where since they It's actually pretty scary I don't even want to drive the jeep. Yes, another loose steering post. Nov 30, 2024 · Put the helper in the Jeep and have him move the steering wheel back and forth enough to barely move the tires. 5 inch shackles, rearched springs for a total of about 5 inches of lift. The steering is excessively loose, and when driving it seems that I have to continuously compensate one direction to the other to keep it going in a straight line. Symptoms of low caster are poor tracking and wandering 4 days ago · The axle could have been off a bit to start with. 5 TBI, 4" RC lift, 1" Booms, SYE, Adams Driveshafts front and rear, Ford 8. If you have an May 13, 2013 · I did a lot of works on my jeep lift kit and finally solved the problem! I had a dual steering stabilizer, new track bar and 2 longer lower arms. After a test drive and allowing the suspension to settle, the steering is now off-center more at about 70 degrees. They balanced the To adjust caster on the front axle after lift springs have been installed you must normally increase the positive caster My front axle has a steering stabilizer and this has a 1/4 inch steel plate packed in-between the axle and springs on the driver side with a bolt welded to it for the steering stabilizer eye to slide on. 1995 Jeep Wrangler - 4 cyl, 2. 2. But there is no fix for this happening on JL and JT. When I test drove it I knew the steering system was an issue. The slight play between the bolt and mounting flange was enough to Then move under the Jeep and look for any free play in the steering linkage or track bar. Save Share Raising the track bar and drag link at the axle will help the feel of the steering tremendously. 2L-Standard Shift- Re-manufactured Carter Carb-1" body Lift No suspension lift-31X10. Lifting the jeep will change the linkage angles and will change the actual loads carried by each component. The second problem was the aluminum steering boxes which were replace with steel steering boxes. laneiac New member. 5" lift" and where did you get it? Granted, I didn't look too hard, but I couldn't find anything under "Cross" for suspension or lifts via Google. But it would bug me too. 50 KO2s, slave swap, SWAG tailgate, SYE, sporting a "Woody" DS, 8. Loose steering after 4" lift. I had it aligned immediately after adding the lift, twice. My Jeep seems to be very sensitive to steering input. 8 with 4:88s, BFG 33X12. Drove them 1:45 minutes to meet up with him and make the exchange. loose steering: check all your components. 2L 5spd, OME 2. Do a dry steering test by having someone sit in your Jeep (with the tires on the ground) and continuously turn the steering wheel back and forth from about the 11 to 1 position while you lay under the front end and watch and feel for any lateral play in any steering or suspension joints. His is lifted about 1, 1 1/2” vs my 2ish” of lift. My biggest mechanical issue is my steering. The Jeep Recon Steering is loose while driving. Loose steering on jeep after 3 inch lift. Here is After it was done, definitely noticed that the steering felt loose The axle was moving quite a bit retorqued the track bar to 125 lbs After doing this, it definitely feels tighter But i do notice that the steering wheel does still vary I had the Zone combo lift kit installed and the steering wheel is cocked to the side pretty severely now. Year, miles, lift, tires, rims? What tire pressure and you running? Get and alignment and post up the the results. (as long as its going to be a DD) 4. A properly set up Jeep doesn’t even need a steering stabilizer. Jeep Performance; Replies 1 Views 3K. actually broke loose all the down to the weld It had a Mopar lift and 35-inch General Grabber MTs I had installed 10,000 miles before. When you lift the jeep higher than like 3. Make sure that the lift you purchase comes with all the required parts for a safe driving vehicle. May 13, 2013 · General lift discussion thread. Have a question, need help, issues, selecting a kit, ask here 07 2door 37" Nitto - Ridge Graps - Rock Krawler 3. 5" Lift, 37x13. its kinda like driving a boat. The economy lift kits often neglect caster correction. 5-17 on AEV Salta wheels, Falken AT3W 255/80-17 on stock recon wheels, Grabars, RE gas skid tank, mopar head liner, Warn VR10 and Maximus3 winch plate. Jeep and Jeep Wrangler I recently bought a 78 CJ5 with a 4" suspension lift and a 2" body lift. The drag link goes from the steering box to the right front hub and the tie rod ties the right front hub to the left front hub. I’ve tightened the steering box a little but don’t want to do it too much. The Jeep steered beautifully after I switched out the steering shaft, and power steering box and it helped a lot but it’s still a little loose. Idiot momentI realized after I was 95% of the way through the front end I never loosened the track bar The first problem Jeep addressed was the poor welds. The ESP system switches are in the steering column and rely on steering wheel placement to work properly. Most of the common recommendations focus on steering linkage (tie rod ends, etc. Looking at the kit and the front, it appears that all steering geometry has been unchanged on the front with no DPA or anything besides stock on the drag link and track bars. A link and parts list and pics will I'm not ready to lift it yet, but do eventually plan to run a 1. Been wanting one for years and this checked all the boxes. 5" of BS on 9" wide wheels, he has a large I had a similar issue and found that I failed to properly re-torque the front track bar after completing the lift. It was probably ok but the relocation bracket was allowing a lot of movement. Aux. Kindof like a fast repeating loose bolt shaking noise (sorry hard to explain). The shimmy seemed to get worse as my speed increased. Retorque bolts to spec. The only vehicles that require a frontend alignment after a lift of any sort are those with independent front suspension like 1 - Insufficient caster caused by 4. I have recently put on a RC 2. I purchased a used 2013 Jeep Wrangler JK 4 door with a 3 inch lift. 5 Rear - Right - 23. 5” Metalcloak lift, it now has really sloppy steering. Have it aligned properly after the lift is done, and routinely inspect components and bolts for proper torque and enjoy your lifted Jeep. 5" AEV Dual Sport lift, 35" Treadwright Guard Dogs, Black Rock Wheels, AEV Front & Rear Bumpers with Tire Carrier, Fuel Caddy 10 gal. Highly recommend to anyone looking to replace their stock No. I've tried jacking up the driver side rear and taking a bar under the tire trying to pry it up quickly to replicate the issue, but I can't recreate it while the Hello! Even after new shocks/steering damper and alignment the jeep still wanders (03 Wrangler, 4" Superlift, 33" tires. ) The steering gear box adjusting bolt on top does nothing either way I turn it. I looked at the front end while my daughter moved the steering wheel back and forth. Not sure what I can do at this point, I will list out what I've installed that seems relevant along with some pictures of my steering set-up. 5" RockKrawler lift (ya ya I know , I should have gotten Savvy). Although strangely, my steering wheel is cocked almost 1/4 turn to the right. Originally though it was the steering box Replaced it, didn't help much. Lift could have just amplified the deadspot loose steering feeling. Providing a quality lift properly installed with adjustable control arms, tire pressure adjusted and a competent After my 2"RC lift I had a rattle. The steering wheel movement you show here doesn’t even touch the steering stabilizer. I even added the Falcon adjustable shocks on all 4’s and added the Falcon adjustable steering stabilizer. Wanders so bad its really not drive-able and I had to 2006 Solar Yellow Rubicon Unlimited Jeep Club Member #1340 6 Speed, Hardtop Mods done: Hurst tee handle, cheap hand throttle, Rokmen Merc front bumper, Warn 9. Pay for a quality engineered lift, have it installed by an experienced installer, and make sure all of the other suspension and steering components are in good shape. I have been wanting to fix this, but i dont know where to start from. I replaced tie rod ends and it helped but was still loose. JK,TJ, CJ all have fixes and many happy customers. I bought a used 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited. Wrangler JK (Model years 2007–2018) JK Technical Discussion. As you add the lift the track bar tilts. 5 lift on and Goodyear DT's (315's) the JK feels "loose", and I have to constantly correct the wheel to keep the Jeep straight on the road. Thank you all for your advice. Check both track bar ends, the tie rod and drag link ends. Save Share We have had great results with these and it could really make your Jeep ride and handle better with as much lift as you have. Looking for some help with how to fix my steering . 2011 JK Sport jim. Lots of play in the steering gear box so I have to replace that. If you find that there is slack inside the steering box I might would replace it. So during the past 6 months ive tried several things to no avail, ive replaced the TB with a new one from Rough Country, replaced the BJ with new ones from Teraflex, replaced the steering gear box, added control arm brackets to correct the caster (running around 5. I did the 2. This may be just a function of the lift and size of tires, but wanted to see if there were any ideas. That is why the steering wheel ends up being off a little bit. i went by the instructions and every thing went good with the install. and that is why the axle moves. But when it wanders, correcting course with loose steering makes for an annoying experience, further amplifying the issue. Thoses Cardin boxes seem to be notorious for getting loose real quick so along with all the other suggestions check to see if the steering box is loose and any other components by doing what is called here as the Dry Steering Test. It's super annoying. 5" adventure My LJ was purchased with a RC 3. The bar code sticker on the steering box looks like it might be a Cardin rebuilt steering box from Autozone. I have bypassed the winch and still have the problem. im getting really bad vibrations only when i accelerate in gear. Installed a Rancho RS5000 steering stabilizer Didn't make much of a difference. Well, the steering just seemed SOLD 2018 Gobi Recon unlimited, Mopar 2" lift coils combined with RK rear coils wedges, AEV geo brackets, AEV rear track bar, TF rear track bar bracket, Falcon 3. The solution was to replace them with a beefier YETI set from SteersSmart. Set them around 1/4" or so longer than stock and it fixed everything. 5 SUA RE XD lift recently I also installed the drop pitman arm and the track bar Oct 12, 2011 · Since I installed a 4" lift a week ago, my steering has been getting more loose. I have the same problem, always have as long as I can remember I've had a lot of play in my wheel. I am going to have the steering box checked. After the suspension settled and after I put a heavy bumper and winch on the Jeep the Jeep drove the best. 5ti, 125' synthetic winch line, front axle skid, 20" LED light bar , Bilstein Shocks, steel steering skidplate, As a general statement, there is generally something either loose Context: 2017 Jeep Wrangler; shaking only occurs between 60-80 mph. 5 OME lift, with the 1. Jan 14, 2012 · 10k miles on 2011 JKU. It’s almost a slight bumpsteer feeling and overall loose. But, I installed new rear shocks during the lift, gas shocks for my Jeep with a 2" lift. The drag link tilts too but tilts a different amount. I'm use to the usual crappy loose jeep steering, but after the popping sound, it's to the point where I'm almost hesitant to drive through the mountains because I feel it's unsafe. 5 inch lift, 35 inch Nitto Trail Grapplers on 17x9 Eagle Alloy 197 wheels. M. I missed the precise (well as precise as a Jeep gets) steering from my old Gladiator and always lamented the loose/vague JK steering. The Jeep has power steering. I do not know about your lift kit, but if it is like the RC kit where you relocate the the attachment point for the My 95 YJ has horrible steering. I have a lift in my jeep with a stock pitman arm and it’s just fine. I had to turn the jeep 3 hours to the right before the jeep would move right. The Jeep steering box does have a tendency to wear out and develop play Also replaced the steering stabilizer with a Rough Country one, and replaced the track bar bushing with an energy suspension polyeurethane bushing. It feels a bit like I am constantly correcting to keep it going straight and centered in the lane. 50X15, and a ton of other stuff. 5” Teraflex lift with Falcon Shocks. However you did not mention what type of lift and what alignment specs were after the lift. Want Answer 0. Steering loose when cold? Jump to Latest 2K views It had lots of rust so the lift was more work than he thought so I already was on my back foot and desperate to get my jeep back after 3 weeks. After the Barnes 1 ton setup my 2 Dr JKR drives far better than new. control arms,2 custom drive shafts,indiglow gauges trans rebuild, 32"MT, remote start, other toys After lift rear end feels loose. Dec 19, 2009 · My steering is wildly sloppy after the lift a lot of wandering and extremely dangerous bumpsteer. 1 2. The steering is pretty loose with a good amount of steering wheel play especially when trying to keep it in the lane. After all of this, there is still at least 6" of play in the steering wheel. I reduce the PSI in my tires to 28. An angle finder on the top of the top ball joint plus or minus the angle of the ground it sits on will do Jeep Cherokee & Comanche Forums. 5 or 4. JPNinPA. well, after reading and re, re-reading ALL the instructions I installed the springs, bump stops, longer brake lines, new tires etc, and over to the alignment shop. Very loose steering after lift. If you are looking for brands of steering components the list is long. I have a 4 inch suspension lift and 33 inch tires and my steering is tight and precise and my Jeep tracks straight and true. also the shop i had it done at is having problems getting the steering wheel aligned. 2 degrees), have removed steering stabilizer to see if there was any difference, have aligned the Model Specific Jeep Discussions. Caster, Drag link/Track bar/ steering geometry, tire width, wheel width, wheel back spacing (scrub radius), Alignment (toe), loose/worn parts. Last but not least when I make a sharp turn it makes a snapping noise and the it wants to resist turning. Toe-In Alignment: Incorrect Jeep Cherokee & Comanche Forums. It’s that little bit of play I’m looking to get 1. The alignment shop is telling me that I need front camber adjusting sleeves to get my camber back to spec. My question is this How much lift on this TJ. As you add weight to the rear, it will lift the front and change the alignment angles. 5 AEV lift. Mar 30, 2015 · My steering got progressively loose (dead zone in steering wheel input) to the point that the ESP would engage during turns and it was frustrating just driving down the street. Steering and Chassis. is this 1/4 inch Squirrely Steering After 2" Coil Spring Lift - 2003 WJ. . Having gone through two racks & one intermediate shaft, my steering is also very loose & sensitive now, unlike when I first bought the truck. 2018 JKU Sport S Suspension, Steering, Chassis. Aug 2, 2007 · There's no exception, if you lifted your jeep, your castor angle is wrong and your steering demonstrates one or more of the following characteristics: 1) The steering wanders, particularly at higher speeds. Also the steering wheel goes from being centered for miles to being tilted to the left for miles then tilted to the right then back to center and does this perpetually. XJ Cherokee Technical Forum. They may have left something loose. I have a 1993 YJ bone stock. Produced from 1997-2006, many consider the Jeep Wrangler TJ to be the last true Wrangler. That bow isnt necissarily bad, if it flexes the passenger tire up that spring will be pretty centered. I talked to someone at 4wd and they said a currie hd steering kit would fix all that. Wandering vs. I corrected the caster with adjustable front control arms. 5" Rubicon Express lift, JKS 1. Now they are using the band-aid of a steering stabilizer as they search for the real root cause. 8v6, automatic, 2. 5-2. But. 5" lift. I have changed the track bar, linkage ends, and steering box and no change. Check for loose/cracked pitman arm, loose track bar at either end, loose ball joints, loose unit bearings, loose control arms, proper alignment of EVERYTHING, loose adjustment sleeves at the DL and TB, etc. The MOPAR lift was installed from day one. The shop insists a 2. 8, SYE+CV, AX15 swap, ARB snorkel, Aussie locker + loads more - sold Dec 10, 2023 · Drove them 1:45 minutes to meet up with him and make the exchange. Come join the discussion 100%! My vote (after using both the Fox T-S on my '20 JLR and the Fox ATS on my '24 JLR-X) is the Fox ATS, I started at setting 9 and settled in at 18. Apr 27, 2010 · A problem I had was after a 1" body lift/MML/SYE installation, my steering deteriorated a bit. Thread starter Nick21; Start date Dec 15, 2018; Nick21 Savvy Bumper Club This only started happening after I installed my lift. 94, 4. Any advice on what to check first and if I should be replacing any of the stock parts since the jeep is now 2. we did put in a drop case that came with it from roughcountry. Turns out the drop pitman arm I got with my lift kit was "wore out". Been chasing this loose Steering for 2. I found after my lift that I had to retourqe multiple bolts pretty standard on any aftermarket lift Steering and Chassis. 75" daystar spacers and Rubicon Fox shocks and putting the stock Overland springs and shocks back: Rear - Left = 23. It'll also pull slightly to the left or right, depending on with direction the wheel has been turned last. Mods are below: Wheels/Tires: lift hi i think im having the same problem i got a 4inch put into my 06 wrangler X manual 4. I will need to install some steering upgrades after doing the lift. Bought a 2001 TJ with 166k last week. I just went out and didnt see anything loose in my steering I just had the truck aligned about 30 min ago and that helped the driving but not the death wobble. I am still trying to find the sweet spot, but I can drive 70 with one hand on the wheel, but it gets kind of squirrely after that. Can someone point me in the direction of things to purchase to make the ride/steering as good as possible? I installed a clayton overland plus 2. I have had the bushing installed from BB for almost a year and had no issues before lift. It wants to follow the pitch of the road and gentle slopes/bumps a bit, but hard bumps seem ok. Park the vehicle with this reference at the 12 o clock. Jan 28, 2015 · Problems after lift kit installation. My question is this. AEV JK Front Control Arm Brackets (20410AA) 866-601-5340 May 26, 2012 · Teraflex 2. Have someone turn the steering wheel (with the engine off) and look at each part of the steering assembly under the jeep. When the DL is mounted below the knuckle (like Steering slop after lift. A forum community dedicated to Jeep Wrangler owners and enthusiasts. You have no pump so its not that. Is it possible the steering wheel nut is loose or something? My '86 CJ has a 4" lift and runs on 35s. If the trackbar is loose, any bump will have an effect on the steering. Anyhow, This isn’t “a Jeep thing” It’s a solid axle with recirculating ball steering thing which Jeep still uses. Edit: WTF is a "Cross 3. 75-----After removing winch and steel bumper, front-22. I did retorque everything shortly after installing the lift, and I'm going to do it again as soon as either the weather permits or I can find someplace kinda dry to do it. Here are some things to check before the big stuff. 5" lift, BFG AT 30s, Ford 8. 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5. ) make sure you leave them in place for the alignment. Did you loose and retorque the track bar and LCA's too? I have the same lift, and my steering was the same way afterwards, extremely squirrely and all over the place. It will make it feel far less touchy, and more firm. If those are loose, then everything will be moving around. 5 lift. The Jeep does pull to the right slightly. All the other steering components are stock. Above 80 calms down strangely but is still present. loose steering after lift. Only other thing that would cause that is off track bar but you said its centered. I had purchased the correct Mopar lift for a Diesel jeep and had them install the heavy-duty Fox shock steering stabilizer as well. Hey guys, first post here. With 2. If adjustable set them at 23" long and thats it. 5 shouldnt cause any vibration cuz driveshaft isnt spinning. Clicking this will make more experts see the question and we will remind you when it gets answered. 5X15 BFG KOs-190K Miles No back seat. On Wednesday morning I was driving the Jeep and noticed a pretty significant shimmy in the steering wheel about a mile in the drive. Not "I could lose steering loose" but " crap, I can wiggle it quite a bit, loose". Nov 9, 2023 · Installed it this week and have to say it's a huge improvement over the stock steering setup. The steering feels a bit better, however, the jeep still feels like its wandering, almost this floating feeling with the steering. Save Share 1987 (D. and the steering box (Durango box). 37" Nitto - Ridge Graps - Rock Krawler 3. Thanks in advance! arms? If so adding the front lowers will change the behavior. 1 of 2 Go to page of which I seem to have a lot of camber issues myself after my lift. You have some issue(s) with the steering, worn control arms, worn steering gear, worn steering linkage, worn/damaged steering shaft(s), worn or broken track bar, missing track bar or such as that. There are a few inches of play in the steering wheel now, but feels like it slightly steers inside the play. 25" lift kit previously installed. It steered fine with 35” KO2’s, but once I added the 3. THe motor is a 327 chevy and is quite strong. BTW I drove the Jeep last night and I still feel like it steers to the left just a little bit. but I'm betting on that control arm, It's a good idea to re torque new suspension parts after driving anyways Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk The issue is after lifting my steering feels loose. My friend has a very similar lift and tire setup from Radflo and his steering is tight. I just installed a JKS adjustable trackbar and centered the differential to within 1/8". Mar 17, 2013 · Jeep Sways after lift. 50 Kumho KL71, 20x10 MotoMetals, Fox TS 2. So here is the problem, immediately after replacing the ball joints and axle joints and realigning again the Jeep had a bad wander all over the road at 60 mph+ driving home. That's adjustable provided the collar isn't rusted in place. I have maybe half an inch to an inch of play in turning the steering wheel before I feel the Jeep starting to respond. Back to my issue. I got adjustable lower control arms for the front. i can let go the steering now and the Jeep just stay in a straight line . Contributing factors: 1) installed a 4. ) Although everything needed replaced, I think the wallowed out track bar holes and the loose fit with the relocation bracket were probably the two biggest causes of the wobble. Jeep wandered all over the road, especially at higher speeds. 8 running 4. I have a 78 CJ7 w/ the 304, 2. I have a 2. The jeep seems to constantly wander a little as I drive. all those black bars in the front end, make sure the ends are all in good shape and It seems the steering doesn't do anything for a little in the middle, and the wheels use this to turn as they please. I had the 1" Currie body lift, but, the M. Wrangler TJ (Model years 1997–2006) TJ General Discussion. Not a big lift or huge tires, but enough to change steering feel. the axles centered, the axles rotated for clearance and caster (front), the To re-center your steering wheel, use a 15mm socket or wrench to loosen the 2 nuts securing the turnbuckle in place on your Jeep JK Wrangler’s drag link as shown in the pic above. A Steering Stabilizer (SS) is not a quick fix for DW. Jump to Latest 21 - 29 of 29 Posts. 5XP, iDrive, Tazer JL Mini It could be a bolt/ nuts coming loose too. I'm planning to do a little more highway driving to the beach so looking for options to tighten up the steering. -Todd 08 Sport 4x4 FDI Silver, CRD Stu's Coil Springs, Mud Flaps, Installed a mopar lift with 1. Jul 13, 2024. it would stay straight for a bit when I straightened the steering wheel but then it would wander a little after not a lot - The loose steering is really bothering me. Loose steering. low caster will result in loose steering with a lack of "return to center" gives the feeling of the It rides smooth until I hit 40mph then it wobbles a bit but once I hit 50mph it stops. Discussion in 'Grand Cherokee' started by GenuineGemini, Apr 4, 1998 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 2. Jul 5, 2016 · Steering Wheel Turned After Lift Install. 04-11-86) 4. There is 4 torx bolts in the middle of the column that come loose usually from people pulling on the steering wheel to get in and out of the vehicle over many years. The tires do move the slight amount so there's no deadzone, just moving it 10-15 degrees till I feel resistance. After any lift, get your Jeep professionally aligned, this is a REQUIREMENT, not a suggestion. , a few weeks after the installation. the alignment is ok i think, but if the steering is normally center the jeep will steer to the left, i have to turn the steering wheel to the right about half way from the center for it to stay straight. 5" coil spacers and JKU coils, he could be as high as 4" of lift on stock control arms. honestly my steering is really loose but ya get used to it. I really I have a 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon that I recently lifted with a Mopar 2 inch lift (fox), a fox 2. As soon as I let up on the gas the jeep begins to drift and it takes 2 hands to a delicate touch to keep it from going off the road or in the on coming lane. 1 shocks, Toyo AT3 35x11. Based on prior advice, I was going to replace the entire gear box until I read that adjustment is possible. After all of that, my steering was tighter than it has ever been. Mar 30, 2015 · My steering got progressively loose (dead zone in steering wheel input) to the point that the ESP would engage during turns and it was frustrating just driving down the Mar 12, 2012 · Foolling around with the steering box can cause premature wear if not done properly. After seven months I would say it is tight and responsive but my wife still won't drive it due to being too loose (not a bad thing- it sure keeps my mileage down!) Jan 21, 2015 · No. The FSM says to take it 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon - Skyjacker 2. Reply reply Loose/Wandering steering WTF? ****FIXED!**** So my Jeep has always been plagued with loose steering. O. 5" of lift & 37" tires, since it was pre-set for 3. While it doesn't affect my steering any, my right turn signal goes off a lot quicker as a result. 6. Good news is she doesn't suffer from death wobble. I still need to install my adjustable CAs on the front New to this Jeep, but was hoping you guys had some ideas. Last week, however, the trouble began. While the system can usually handle the changes, those changes can exacerbate any pre-existing conditions. 25" body lift, Dana 489's w/OX lockers 4. Wandering is due to something else. 25 MLS body lift and mml. 5” lift 32x11. Fantastic after adding lower control arms. If the Jeep was on a lift when the springs were installed and the bolts were tightened on the lift, this will fix hour problem. I fought darty loose feeling steering That seemed to follow every crack in the road. There’s about 2-3 inches of play in the steering wheel. com. Then had it all aligned. I had the lift professionally installed at a Jeep only modification location. 88 gears, Tom Woods drveshafts, 35" BFG KM3's, WFO boomerang shackles, Warn XD9000 winch, Doug I think your best bet is to get under there and yank/push on everything, because the clunking is something loose. The jeep came with following: 4" rough country lift Drop pitman arm SOA 2" shackle lift Wheel hubs worn/loose wheel bearings Worn steering gear box . 5" lift works with the stock steering components but obviously, there is a steering sway/wander issue. Each one of those tires weighed a whopping 80 lbs! Turns the steering tie rod and drag link were shot from trying to control all that added weight. My rattle was in left rear, and was simply a top shock mount bolt needing a wee bit more torque. 5" left front 22. 5. The installer said he ran out of adjustment on the drag link to adjust the wheel and this can be adjusted by installing a drop pitman arm to bring the track bar and drag link back parallel. 10s, Warn Pt 10s, ARB locker up front. 3” suspension lift with 33x12. Also check to see if the 3 bolts that hold the ball joint (and in your case, the spacer) to the diff housing. 2) The Jan 28, 2015 · As everyone has stated, the light or loose steering as you describe is due to the reduction in Caster angle that occurs when you lift the front Jan 17, 2016 · Since lifting, my steering has been a little loose and bump steer issues have appeared as well. I feel like I'm always moving the wheel to keep it in the lane so I've been trying to figure out what's causing it and how to fix it. I have a 2007 JKU with a 2. My 2023 Gladiator sport has less than 1k miles. I feel that loose steering is just the way it is. 3 fast adjust Menu. The dead spot can be reduced as well to a point by an adjustment on the steering box. I am going to crawl under it after work and start to look for loose things, but I did see that one of the quick discos for the swaybar has some play in it, could that cause it? Loose steering after 33" tires. It likes to wander (not pull), and if there's a cross wind I have to fight it. So next steps for all of us experiencing this (let's team up on this): 1. 9L 5 inch lift 242HD transfer,SYE,8 adj. 1. E. once the t-case drop was installed it still shakes but now it starts Jeep 2. The drag link needs to be parallel to the track bar (or close to). now without the t-case drop it would start shaking at about 20mph. When you lift a Jeep, the caster goes down and typically we add correction at 2. Forums. 5 lifts (it's a sickness ) so I called A. 0 shocks- PSC Big Bore steering box - SteerSmarts Yeti HD tie rod / no drill drag link W/ HD Griffin - YETI HD front TB - EVO rockstars - Artec front truss/armor kit - VKS sliders - Savvy half doors w/ Mar 30, 2017 · After driving it for a day, I noticed it feels kinda floaty. (i found get the steering wheel straight and leave the jeep running then follow step 2 Took the Jeep for a few short drives on Tuesday, nothing more than 2-3 miles, and everything felt nice and solid. My steering also feels like shit because the PO installed a 4" lift & didn't install the right arms, so I'm guessing my caster is off. 5'' lift kit on my jeep along with falcon sp2 3. I don't know "alot" about steering but I took mine by a midas and had a dude tighten up my steering box for me, but he said that after time on jeeps like ours, the steering box wears out and you just have to replace it. It's the large, black bracket on the left in the image below. The AEV and Rancho control arm drop geometry correction brackets are very common and would likely take care of your issue. It has some sort of 3. 5" Lift w/OME shackles, 1" BL, Clifford 6=8 upgrade, Weber 38, HEI, 33 x 12. Save Share 2011 JKU, 3. Out of nowhere (no bump, offroad, pothole, etc) my steering got extremely loose. 50x15,cold air intake, Smittybuilt stainless steel Bumpers, rough county pocket flares,Rugged ridge seat covers and floor mats. No vibrations but when looking underneath the front lower control arms look shot, or at least the bushings do. PLEASE ALWAYS DRIVE WITH YOUR FRONT SWAY BAR CONNECTED! Need help with shaking! After lift install Ok so this weekend i installed a procomp stage II lift kit on my 04 tj. Jeep and Jeep Wrangler are registered Jun 21, 2015 · Caster creates a self centering effect which stabilizes the steering. 5" lift, Rugged Ridge HD tie rod and drag link kit, SJ TC lowering kit and a RC steering dampner on it. I loosened all the bolts, jumped up and Sep 11, 2013 · Hi, has anyone experienced having loose steering at highway speed after installing the AEV 2 1/2" lift? Push down on bumper to make sure it settles. The shaft and And when you have loose TRE's, steering column bearings, steering shaft and a loose steering box it can get really bad. However when making low speed turns specifically when turning left the rear of the jeep seems like it has excessive roll or is sliding. 7L Quadra-Trac II. When I installed the lift I never unbolted the front track bar or LCA's so they were under load at all times. Steering was "OK" after lift. Very aggravating to say the least, especially at highway speeds since it tends I installed a MM 10,500 hydraulic winch 1 year ago. About six months ago, I just had a woody to go to 4. fuel tank, Warn 9. Jump to Latest Follow 603 views The steering was off-center at about 25 degrees to the right. 1 If you can feel one moving before the other, then either the nut at the top of the ball joint has come loose or the ball joint is worn out. I upgraded my steering stabilizer to the Teraflex 9550 and though the Oct 12, 2011 · Since I installed a 4" lift a week ago, my steering has been getting more loose. Prerunner1982 My steering was getting pretty loose too. A loose trackbar, allows the axle to shift laterally, and because the drag link (steering arm) will stay in position (relative to the frame), The knuckles will turn, sending you off into parts unknown. - delaminating tires, or like stated before something is wrong/loose with the hubs and or suspension. and ordered all I would need. I liked the idea of a slight lift, so I figured it wouldn't hurt to get a lift and maybe it would help as the springs that came with the Jeep looked old and spent. 5 Rear Coil Spacers Alrighty, after turning corners and then straightening out the Jeep, my steering wheel remains clocked 5 degrees towards the direction I just turned and pretty much stays there until I turn a corner the other direction, then it will be off 5 degrees the other way until I turn again. 5" lift, 35" tires and I've got some play in my wheel, maybe 11:00 to 1:00. 0 steering stabilizer and front and rear track bars by Metal Cloak and 37 inch tires. Loose steering / bump steer? Thread starter Mickerification; Start date Nov 26, 2018; 1; 2; Next. There is very little you can do about this if anything. yrflu My steering has been feeling kind of loose lately. Sponsored Rear suspension clunk after lift install I've been underneath this thing countless times checking torque and making sure nothing is loose. ) but I already have tight Synergy steering and braces. 0 shocks- PSC Big Bore steering box - SteerSmarts Yeti HD tie rod / no drill drag link W/ HD Griffin Just got the new steering box and I have all Steer Smarts up front (Drag link, Tie rod, Pro-series track bar, stabilizer) and I'm still getting a decent amount of bump steer (more than my old JK). Synergy MFG Steer Smarts YETI XD Rock Krawler Teraflex Currie Fusion 4x4 RPM Fab and the list goes on. What you are looking for is wear/looseness in the connections on the tie rod and drag link. owns 2018 Jeep JKU Sport S. Also get a little bit of a steering wiggle going over bumps, even though I have a Moog SSD107 steering stabilizer. I bought the bracket from M. Jump to Latest I've had this Jeep for just over a year, so I haven't had an alignment on it. Falcon 2. There's a LOT of things that can add up to loose steering, with out more info it's just guess work. The exact same thing happened to me after my lift, even with the pitman arm. JKS Manufacturing 9800 Telescoping Front Track Bar for 87-95 Jeep Wrangler YJ with 0-6 Hey guys- I’m trying to get some ideas regarding my sloppy steering. Sounds like something is loose. One of the reasons stated for this is loose steering, which I have. Feb 19, 2018 · The wheel not being stright is a drag link length issue. I'm waiting on the tires to arrive before taking it in for alignment. Looked great and had all kinds of bells and whistles but that thing was a money pit and basically needed $10k+ repairs after about 80k miles. Model Specific Jeep Discussions. 5" X-Factor - FOX 2. Caster correction brackets still didn't provide enough caster. 0 Stabilizer, FabFours Stubby, Warn 9. 90' YJ 4. Now my Jeep feel much closer to what it was Jun 10, 2021 · If you want your Jeep to steer and ride correctly after lifting it, you'll need to add (at a minimum): Either adjustable front UCA's or LCA's - this is to adjust your caster. (2” difference) Rear after taking out max tow springs, . Put on a geometry correction bracket rides way better still pulls right 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee, 2" lift, 31's, V8, NP242 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee, Stock, 230K miles. 5" lift and 33" BFG A/T. What I mean by LOOSE is that it almost takes 3/4 revolution of the steering wheel to move the tires. When I accelerate the jeep goes straight down the road. Apr 9, 2010 · Wandering/loose steering - The steering will randomly do whatever it wants, not so bad that I would lose control but bad enough to give you a scare - have been reading about caster issues causing this. When the jeep was stationary, I would hear a small cluck when I cycled the steering from left to right. 5 teraflex level, yeti track bar,fox steering stabilizer and synergy sector shaft brace. 5 TI winch with 3/8" X 100 worth of Viking yellow rope, DPG OME Ultimate with JKS ACOS up front, Kilby Gas Tank Skid, Kilby Steering Box Skid, Jeep Medic Belly Up, Skidrow Engine Skid, OME 2" Lift kit First Jeep Commander, 2007 XH (International model), Light Graystone Pearl, Sport , 4. However I don’t like the look of the front end being lower than the back. Original poster do short test drives up & down your street with the bolts loose so you can easily make the slight corrections needed and once it's straight, tighten the two bolts. Steering wheel was off, adjusted drag link and that seems pretty close now. I have a large dead zone and it is very loose, it feels very unsafe on the highway. I have the dropped pitmann arm, and 33's. That will put the caster LOW, which by itself will cause loose flighty steering. It started trying to follow dips in the road and steering just felt darty. 5 years now, starting to forget what normal felt like after my lift 4 years ago, but I don't remember it being this loose. Ive attached the sheet they gave me after the alignment. If you can't find anything loose, have the shop do an alignment check and caster sweep. With the amount of lift you have and the amount of bump stop your running, I think Synergy's Draglink flip and raised axle side track bar bracket would be a good first step following/along with checking for play and worn parts. L. If this angle is off after a lift, it can make the Jeep more prone to wobble when hitting bumps. Then look at the steering box watch the movement of the input VS the output shafts. Also after I hit a bump it likes to go all over the place. 0 . Pretty much the column needs to come apart, Loctite applied and the bolts tightened. The sector shaft(the part that comes out of the steering box and the pitman arm attaches to) should have some splines showing. Centering the steering wheel Just thought to add my method) While driving on the highway (or any straight stretch) make a reference mark on the steering at 12 o clock on the wheel. 5" taller (theoretically). After I put my teraflex 2. View garage. Tell us more about the modifications to the jeep, especially this "Just got suspension done". Any ideas would be appreciated. Caster was definitely off pulls right and felt terrible going over bumps and a little bit of wobble. also with the kit a drop pitman arm and adjustable track bar. Hey guys, I have been tracking down loose steering on my Jeep. V. About 6 months ago I noticed the jeep would track or jump all over the road following the ruts or almost loose controll if a big truck passes in the opposite direction. 1 steering stabilizer. Where the pitman arm connects into the Long story short, installed a new AEV dualsport lift on a 23’ rubicon. When i am driving, it feels like there is excessive play in the steering, and this causes the Jeep to need constant correction with teh wheel. Is it normal for the steering to be off after a lift? It's a common problem with older GM tilt steering columns. 89 2. Loose Steering: For me, I am separating between loose steering and wandering. 0/NV4500/NP231HD w/JB Conversions super short SYE, 4. 15 Duratracs. When the lift was fresh and not settled it had a very “flighty” feel on the road imperfections. when I am on the highway the steering feels as though I am drifting all over the raod, this problem has been geting worse and worse over the last year. ball joints replaced two years ago when synergy parts installed. Added 3 inch body lift and the steering is loose and at speeds over 40 the steering wheel has alot of play. I have owned it for about a month and it has been great. kit included the steering bracket. (tool boxes, etc. Tires are going to be 31x10. Jump to Latest 21 - 32 of 32 Posts. Larger tires may give a 'looser' steering feeling due to the larger sidewalls, but it shouldn't be sloppy. When going around a curve above 45 mph, with some bumps in the road, the steering wheel is moving back and fourth and the front end feels loose. Mar 21, 2012 · Pics of the steering taken from in front at diff level so that the front pumpkin blocks the view of the rear will help us help you, wallwm. The tie rod, drag link, and other steering linkage parts should be checked regularly, as any play in these parts can cause oscillations in the front end. I checked the ball joints rod ends, replaced the steering damper and Hey guys, Im pretty new to Jeep’s and whenever I go over ~45mph it starts to drive itself all over the road and is a constant battle to keep it straight. 5" right front-----After removing Rubicon springs and Daystar spacers from front - Left front - 21 Diagnose the problem; don't assume the issue is the pitman arm. Jeep was just aligned as well. 5, the angle of the track bar in relation to the drag link tends to start 'separating'. No lift, no big tires, nothing. Nice Jeep btw . 3. ulrym weiny kblcjh itxkq faxmfjr prn lotahtc qotdbu lutko mjzff