Ecmlink injector scaling. Thread starter Justin DuBois; Start date Jan 28, 2022; .

Ecmlink injector scaling 2. My questions are in Bold Vehicle- 2005 GTO LS2 (6. Fuel Injector Clinic (FIC) 650-31: 210: Fuel Injector Clinic (FIC) 750-40: 330: Fuel Injector Clinic (FIC) 850-47: 330: Fuel Injector Clinic (FIC) 950-53: 330: I recently picked up and installed a set of used FIC 1680 High-Z injectors (as well as a resistor pack delete plug), but I'm having trouble getting the injector scaling to a value that makes sense. Proven Member. 1G DSM MAS. There will also be some more tools, such as one that lets you compare VE tables, an injector latency calculator, and maybe a calibration page for wideband delay Obviously, you need to swap a few wires around on the ECU harness. Sep 1, 2021 #1 1990TSIAWDTALON. Take it to my tuner You are doing the right thing. Obviously, you need to swap a few wires around on the ECU harness. Deadtime is listed as an adjustment to be entered into the ECMLink application, which is then applied on top of the calculated stock adjustment. I have 1450 injectors and a 450 fuel pump and my global number Tried scaling injectors differently with no or worse changes. 5% So in order to scale the ECU's fuel curve down to compensate for 720 The Small Pulse Adder (SPA), is an adjustment made to the commanded Injector Pulse Width (IPW) when it is operating in its characterized non-linear state. 5psi base fuel pressure. The global deadtime field on the ECU Config→Fuel tab is simply added to whatever value is derived from that InjBatteryAdj field. Good news - COBB and Injector Dynamics have teamed up to provide a complete injector characterization model for the COBB 1000cc injector sets for Subaru! The updated instructions include data for Fuel Injector Scale, Fuel Injector Latency, Small IPW Trim, Minimum IPW, etc. As an example, consider the purchase of 720 cc/min injectors. 940 x 0. If WideBand is leaner, Injector Scaling should be decreased. voltage reading on DSMLink is exactly what it should be. If you are choosing an injector larger than the maximum values allowed in the GM ECU software, you will need to scale not only the injector values, but various others to accommodate the larger injectors. What is the method to find this info? Edit: Actually, before you do anything, go read bad noodle's tuning guide, the RomRaider/ECUFlash sticky, the RomRaider Tuning FAQs and the RomRaider General FAQs so you have an idea of what you need to do to tune your car - otherwise you can easily damage your engine. We demonstrate basic concepts like datalogging as well as injector compensation, basic airflow setup and throttle position calibration to get you started. The E-Manage Ultimate is wired and configured for add-only compensation on the injectors. ECMLink provides Then as you near the lowest end of the scale (say 8 volts) raise the values a bit more, say we were adding . 36. Posted November 14, 2019. I used to have my AEM X series wideband on the rear 02 and stock 02 up front. 67 to get the injector size running E85 of 1440cc, coming up with the current -69. I couldnt find these anywhere. Question abount injector scaling I have a later e38 with the 127lb limit. Thread starter DSMTyson; Start date Jan Lake Charles, Louisiana. lito. 00:00 - Now we are ready to connect to the vehicle. Replacement Timing and Fuel tables. We discuss properly calibrated VE values within the fuel Any time your ACTUAL injector flow rate is greater than the maximum allowed flow rate in the PCM, you will likely need scaling. Since you used the equation 2150 x 0. Available Options: 1. okm12346; Dec 5, 2015; Tuning & Engine Management; Replies 0 Views 1K. I shut off injector 1 and the car ran the same. Now, for the FIC 650's The Global it -31 and Deadtime is 210 I'll post a log here. InjBatteryAdj. You simply use the ECU→Fuel dialog to adjust the global fuel slider and deadtime value. The following are a few sample OpenLoop and Tmng tables for use with ECMLink. 46. 3L) 3. Reducing the Global fuel adjustment value to, say, -50% to compensate for 900 cc/min injectors cuts fuel delivery in half. I noticed that the car smelled really rich on idle and thought maybe the front o2 was burnt out so I decided to move AEM wideband up front and connect it to ecu. Without having a flow sheet on the injectors to tell you the deadtime at different voltages, I would just leave this default in the Direct Access tables. I'm really after seeing what was used for global and voltage values, as I found I had to use the same voltage values as the 2150s, and actually added some global to get the I got a 90 talon its stock right now. Dec 5, 2015. 0 items in your cart. 0% compensation being 450cc (stock). The stock OEM Injector flow scaling is set to 503. Evo harness → 95-97 DSM ECU . • If you need socketing services, you will need to ship your ECU in to ECMLink. Can change between 388 -> 1050 with less than 0. i hooked up the ecmlink, set up everything right(i believe) and now it likes to stall once and a while. 1) You ECMLink (V3) is an all-in-one datalogging, real-time tuning, and reflashing package for your 1990-1999 DSM. Again, this is only when you checked all possible voltage issues ECMLink (V3) Laptop Application Changelog. Before long, At this point, I should mention that you should already have your injectors dialed in. The stock 2G DSM maps were only calibrated by Mitsubishi up to about 14-15psi. Stock injector scaling, stock max octane timing table, no ecu inputs. Thread starter TSiBOLO; Start date Sep 20, 2017; This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others. CanadianTalonTC; The following diagram provides a high-level view of how to wire in a second bank of injectors for use with ECMLink's secondary fuel control feature. Posted April 25, 2020. ECMLink (V3) is an all-in-one datalogging, real-time tuning, and reflashing package for your 1990-1999 DSM. On this page, we're going to assume you've already run through the install procedure and have gotten a good connection established with the ECU. This app pro Also as for the injector battery offset. The The Global fuel and Deadtime adjustments are intended to be used mainly to compensate for injector flow rate and fuel pressure that differ from stock. Re-scaling injectors from scratch every time is a great way to go broke or send a lot of cars out with terrible fuel trims (and hence stall etc). 3 or the 4 bars that are on the ecmlink website. ECMLink (V3) The latest version of our product, ECMLink (V3), permanently records the changes you make to flash when you turn the ignition key off. A flex fuel sensor doesn't have anything to do with that. Setup wideband operation within dsmlink. 5PSI fuel pressure. If not, go back review the Initial Setup/Injector Dial-in under the Required Reading/Viewing section above After this it was time to set my global injector scaling. Members; 8 Posted November 14, 2019. I assume you are changing the global and deadtimes between the stock and 950cc injectors. Mar 25 Hey guys recently I purchased an eprom ecu from a member here. Let me clarify for EVERYONE that the numbers in the picture and the numbers you put in will look different because of the measurement value so, for example, the 9 volt number you put into ECMLink will be 1350. research and adjust current tune myself to account for a bigger injectors (don't think this is the answer but I wasnt sure if there was an easy way to adjust for an upgrade like this) Feb 6, 2021 #2 sat there at the pump with my laptop on ecmlink and after using their calculation formula for a 50/50 blend she fired right I am old enough to remember reading super street magazine in high school and back then people used injectors in like 750 area and now the norm is 1650. Going Full Scale Certain things in the log just work better at full scale, especially if you set their max values to be at some critical threshold. ECMlink 1G Tuning Help! Latest: Cj Anderson; 420A A82 and A83 connectors. For example, if you're running 100% E85 with 850 cc/min injectors, your injectors are flowing the equivalent of 570 cc/min injectors on gasoline: 850 * 0. The line item is called “InjBatteryAdj”. On this page you'll find a quick high-level summary of the major features in ECMLink. I used the conversion table in HP Tuners to find out the To adjust this change the injector latency map. The only modifications within ceddy bigmaps are for CEL, Injector scaling and latency, Omni 4 bar scaling and the fuel map being dropped to 10. If base timing is off, adjust timing sliders across the board to LEARNING ECMLINK V3 (pt. 375 or –37. But is it possible to halve the injector flow rate and use the (Injector flow multi vs volts table) at 2 to make up for the half flow numbers in the IFR table? As if i do it this way i ill get the injectors within the ECU I had a no start issue after a rebuild which sounded similar and it ended up being I had the crank sensor itself backwards so it wouldn't pick up the trigger plate. 8 see how it goes and lean from there, gotta change global from my gas scale of -69 to like -56 and see what that looks like too. Fuel Injector Clinic has developed a specialized flow bench in collaboration with ECMTuning, Inc. 3. These injectors had been cleaned and tested by FIC on 7/1 (see the attached pic). You can log this in ECMLink as MAFRaw. . Do I need to change Rated Fuel Pressure and regulator adjustment to 400kpa, as well as make corresponding changes in Dead Time table and SPWA? Quote; Adamw. , etc. they do not however have evo latency . Set the A/F Ratio prefs for your injectors. I'm not sure how much to increase the voltage latency compensation though. There is NO NEED to scale stock injectors if running on pump fuel. But it all starts with airflow measurement. even if you put in the sensor and have the wrong size injectors your just gonna max out your duty cycle and lean out unless they have the capacity to deliver the larger volumes of fuel hi i have a set of FIC 1650cc injectors and i really need to know what to set them at on dsm link the right way i don't have time to do the math so can some one please give me a chart or something to set my dead times my global and my pressure on my fpr thanks. 00:07: Again depending on whether you have a key start or push start vehicle, that process will be a little Demo videos - We have a number of demo videos up on our main website that you should watch if you're unfamiliar with the ECMLink application. Deadtime has the largest impact at idle (short injector pulse widths) where it makes up most of the IPW. This is especially true for closed loop operation. Fitting a set of 1500cc injectors to a ls3. Getting power from the radio. 32 → 20 A very basic tuning example showing how to use the datalogging and tuning integration in ECMLink to make a simple change to one of the ignition Options and Scaling : ECU - Initial setup : A walk through on the initial setup of your ECU's basic configuration items (injectors and airflow) along with a simple TPS adjustment example. It was running with 23PSI and getting 310whp. Lots of Whether running MAF or speed density, ECMlink provides very useful tools to give you an estimation of where things need to be. I've checked for boost leaks, checked timing, and all the normal stuff. We started the car and it ran god awful as if it was cammed. 670 = 570. 0 = -0. ECUflash Injector latency values. 115 (11/27/2016) Apparently 80 psi still wasn't enough Extended boost field range on FPS, EGR and Boost (WGS) tabs from 80 psi to 117 psi. I do have 1200cc FIC hi rez injectors from ECMTuning's website to go in but I had a problem installing them and decided to just tune it on the stock ones first. Recently, a member on the ECMLink forums requested some help with tuning and I decided to lend him a hand. (2. 4. First of all is hardware. 0M PDF: 1G Clutch Wire Install: Dec 14, 2008 172K PDF: 2G Clutch Wire Install: My understand is that you would need to scale the injectors and MAF if flow exceeds the 343. I highly doubt that most people even use the full potential of those injectors. I don't have the sheet that came with these injectors for that info. Add those ms values in and you should have a solid starting foundation. 01:50 I have a spreadsheet on this computer somewhere specifically for calibrating those injectors in a DSM. 00:08: Now in this particular example, as we've already discussed, we're running the FA20 DIT engine with the stock injectors and there is no facility currently to add aftermarket direct ECMlink 2G - injector circuit malfunction DTC. 8 volts down to 10 volts, While I've always considered injector "dead time" to EVO8 settings: The section that used to be here for EVO8 injectors has been moved to the more specific EVO8 V3 settings page. the car runs fine with the stock computer. ECMlink rocks but it relies on an older style of ecu that has a slower injector driver. I have evo 9 FPR and the fuel pressure gauge confirms the 43 ish PSI of fuel pressure. 32 → 20 Are 950cc injectors to small to run e85 with a bullseye t04b vtrim turbo? MODS:272 cams walbro 255 balanced shafts removed 6bolt block 2g head jmf sheetmetal intake vrsf fmic dsmlink v3 wideband, oil ,boost gauges, Autometer 3in exhaust 950 fic injectors on 93 pump gas. DSM Shootout Member Pot Donor. 67 = 630cc ECMlink Weird Injector scaling. For almost all cases this slower injector driver is entirely unimportant but when it comes to really large injectors such as 1600cc Boschs and 2000+cc injectors of other manufacture every little bit counts. I had used injectors that had calibration profiles for DSM and universal and applied the differences to the 1000cc injectors to get better numbers. The Global fuel and Deadtime adjustments are intended to be used mainly to compensate for injector flow rate and fuel pressure that differ from stock. 5ms. Some time ago, I installed EcuFlash and EvoScan to tune. i agree, we quoted injector dynamics but he didnt want to go that way, thank you for your quick reply ! Quote; 4 That you keep your stock MAF scaling and ONLY adjust the injector latency and scaling to get your fuel trims as close to 0 as possible and within +/- 5% of 0. I just installed my new injectors and added them to link. 93 (set by the OEM ECU) I'd would want to increase it to what ID has on their website, which is 1065cc/min @ 43. I just want to drive the car I'm not looking to try and make more power yet as I want to get way more familiar with ECMLink and convert to speed density. If you're looking to run a set of stock EVO8 injectors or an EVO8 MAF with your V3 ECMLink or V3Lite setup, this page contains the information you'll need to adjust the ECMLink First, the basic process of adjusting DSMLink for different injectors is simple. 00: This page is You can still dial in your injectors, adjust fuel and timing tables, set your launch limit, run no-lift-to-shift, dial in your throttle position sensor, run anti-lag off the line or between shifts, In the direct access area of ECMLink, there is a table called InjBatteryAdj. itcy. 670 figure comes from the gas ratio column of the table above. car seems to drive fine and idle fine its smooth. As voltage drops, injector response ok so im having an odd issue with my fuel trims keep going up to 12. Before the injectors where at 0. Log In; Site Tools. Siemons 60lb P/N 108191 to be exact. 7 again For example, if you're running 100% E85 with 850 cc/min injectors, your injectors are flowing the equivalent of 570 cc/min injectors on gasoline: 850 * 0. I tried number 2 and the car ran the same. I have RC 550cc injectors, and I also double checked the serial numbers online, but the global fuel scale is at -42% as if they were 750cc or some like this. They are applied at all times. This diagram illustrates 4 primary injectors and 4 secondary injectors. I have something weird going on . Moderators; Deadtime is listed as an adjustment to be entered into the ECMLink application, which is then applied on top of the calculated stock adjustment. 0 flat in just a click has been outstanding. Sep 20, 2017 #1 TSiBOLO. Boost = For reference and other EMS, rough estimate, effected by turbo, VE%, etc. Have ECMLink configured for narrowband simulation and connect wideband output to front O2 input. 6 psi (2G). 00:03: So we're going to turn the ignition on. I ended up swapping back to the 2g ecu today. User Tools. If you are daily driving the car, or dont plan on seeing more than 25 psi, stick to a GM 3bar, 3. Adamw. RocCitySlayer; Apr 19, 2012; Tuning & Engine Management; Replies 11 Views c. Let me see if I can find it. My concern is that ECMTuning - wiki. Well, i bought my car with some FIC 550s on it and i just got link not too long ago. but I don't get too caught up on that if the fuel trim is inline and global fuel settings make sense for the injectors that are installed. I ran 5 gauges once and they all gave me a slightly different reading. Here are the settings in EcuFlash: Injector Scaling: 522 cc/min Injector Battery Voltage Latency Compensation: Ok, I have spent 2 days figuring this out and now I need a little help. 1992 Eagle Talon TSi AWD. In the "getting a basic tune with Ecuflash" thread, it says to increase FIC injectors by . ECMLink/ DSM Link, is ideal for tuning the 1G DSM, with advanced logging & tuning ability for various configurations, from stock to high-performance setups. ECMLink provides enhanced logging functionality (MUCH faster than factory) and all the tuning tools you need to run any number of different configurations Provide information on injector size, your configured deadtime adjustment, and base fuel pressure. I know about the double stoich half IFR method. But what if under these same conditions, the ECU has smaller injectors to work with? ECMlink FIC 1050SP Injector Settings. 33. A global value of "0" means "calculate fuel flow based on stock injector sizes". But if you've actually tried this, you probably already know it doesn't always work out that way. Thread starter enriquez2000; Start date Jun 5, 2015; Oct 5, 2014 fort collins, Colorado. But what if under these same conditions, the ECU has smaller injectors to work with? After you have purchased and installed your new fuel injectors, we need to tell the ECU what injectors you've installed. 0L) M6- It has stock 33lb injectors and I am upgrading to 60lb'ers. There is also a secondary fuel scale and deadtime adjustment conditionally applied with Full V3 (see the ECU Config→AuxMaps tab). 0g/s fuel flow rate. Hi everyone, I have thrown together a simple web application that might be useful for people working on injector scaling. *I also have the capacity to log via Rom Raider certain parameters if need be* The setup is very basic: E85, 800CC Injectors, AEM fuel pump, DSMLink, MHi Evo3 DSG, Innovate ECB-1 Wideband with boost and ethanol percentage. Thread starter Nate355RS; Start date Jun 19, 2016; From what I've read from FIC these injectors have a different spray pattern and scaling than other FIC injectors and even came with a special flow sheet with individual latencies at different voltages for each injector. 5 to assist with scaling. it will fire up right away and continue to try and stall if i don't hit the gas a bit. EVO8 V3 Config Settings. 15. It has been a long time since I pulled it up. To convert the percent fuel trim into a ms value you have to multiply by the fuel injector scale. 77 12 Aug 6, 2016 Milford, Michigan. And then THAT is finally used to schedule the injector firing events. Dual-Bank Injectors: If you've wanted to run more than 4 injectors, here you go. 20+ Year Contributor Fuel Injector Lag Time E85 will have a scaling ~30% lower than that of pump gas. 0 -FP RED -COBB Hardpipes, SFI, Sway Bars -Cosworth MX1 -MDR Inlet - MAP P&P INT. Injector scaling and default timing/fuel maps. In the direct access area of ECMLink, there is a table called InjBatteryAdj. "global" adjustment you need in order to compensate for the new injectors. As injector size is increased, the Global fuel adjustment must be made more negative. Although they flow 1650 when held open, the number your ECU is going to want to see is closer to 1500-1550. 1AFR difference in mixture. While we have provided the option to scale the - Now that we've got our base ROM configured to suit our supercharger installation, the next step in our process is to look at our MAF scaling, and our injector scaling as applicable. 91. My car has been running really poorly after my FIC 1650cc injector install. The DSMLink program can handle any size injector from stock 450cc, to a whopping 1600cc. I just was told that I may need to upgrade from the stock maf too, which is good to know I don't need to worry about another thing. 315 - . Being able to scale the DA table from 11. • GM MAF parts are currently unavailable, so we (at STM) are not offering them. The following are a few sample OpenLoop and Tmng tables Reducing the Global fuel adjustment value to, say, -50% to compensate for 900 cc/min injectors cuts fuel delivery in half. Moderator. 150 per volt and did that from 12. will i need a retune if i go to 1000cc or 850cc? im running a td05 16g, 255 walbro with aeromotive afpr and other supporting mods. Welcome Guest! Would you like to log yourself in?Or would you prefer to create an account?: Overview: ECMLink is our next generation tuning and logging tool for the '90-'99 DSMs and '92-'95 Lancer EVO 1-3 platforms. ECMLink provides enhanced logging functionality (MUCH faster than factory) and all the tuning tools you need to run any number of different configurations DSMLink Tuning Guide For those of you that have a DSM and have DSMLink, Nick (NickNorth11) and Shane2GSX wrote this basic tuning guide for the DSMLink community. Good injector manufacturers/suppliers will go to great lengths to test and define the adjustments made to the I was wondering if anyone has ran the Alpha Injection Clinic 2600cc fuel injectors, and if anyone has ran them with ECMLink? I'm switching from FIC 2150s, and some things seem to be a little weird. If I buy DSMLink now and upgrade to larger injectors later, do I need a new chip? The answer depends on how large a change you're making and which version of DSMLink you're running. Easiest way to get initial E85 scaling numbers is to take the actual injector size and multiple by . Apparently, this chart gives info to calculate the necessary User Defined MAP sensor settings in the ECMlink Settings/ECU Inputs menu. View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Tuner Join Date Aug 2008 Location Caracas, Venezuela Posts 71. ECU Type: ECMLink is a tuning and logging tool for the Evo 1/2/3. okm12346. ECM Link Part 9 walks you through how to properly tune your 1G or 2G DSM with speed density tuning. I have 440cc injectors from Tearstone (I believe they are Ford Motorsports brand) and an E-Manage Ultimate sitting in front of the ECU. Recently I've been having issues with my AFR's. First table you need to adjust is the Injector Scaling table. We thought just needs to be tuned. Added new load scale feature to allow for scaling of the load axis for engine displacement larger than 2 liter. 226 (07/04/2023) Added support for user-editable minimum injector pulsewidth. If WideBand is richer, Injector Scaling should be increased. 00:00 - Now we already know that we're going to need to make some adjustments to our MAF scaling to account for our new OTR intake system, however, in the GM ECUs this is actually a little bit more complex, so before we actually jump into our MAF scaling we're going to talk about the system the GM PCM uses, and how that's applied, and hence, what changes we're going ECMLink V3 Package (EVO1-3/GSR/RVR) $425. Less voltage results in a “slower” injector and the need for more deadtime. I did find a few data sheets for FICs 1200,1800 low z, and a sheet for a set of high z injectors. 2 to 12. ECMlink Weird Injector scaling. You can monitor this frequency to determine how closely you're running to the known limits of that MAF. But, really, there's no reason you couldn't run 4 and 6 or whatever else. Deadtime ; Voltage (usecs) 7: 2490: 9: 1530: 12: 1215: 14: 1020: 16: 930: 19: 825: NOTE: That list is total deadtime. 226 (07/04/2023) Added scaling/multiply option to tables and lists. 4. Changing injector size (of course) Changing base fuel Most injectors are "named" by their pulsed flowrate. I do understand that injectors are expensive and buy only once logic but most people don't need huge injectors. ECMlink Global and Deadtime for FIC 550 Injectors. ECMLink can also be configured to interpolate between the MinOct and MaxOct timing and A value of 50% means a 50% ethanol-related enrichment will be applied in the final injector pulse width you're going to need to adjust your current global scale value according to the ethanol content of the fuel currently installed in your tank to The Global fuel and Deadtime adjustments are intended to be used mainly to compensate for injector flow rate and fuel pressure that differ from stock. Your injector duty cycle shows 0 during the entire log while cranking which if the crank sensor is not being triggered/plugged in cuts injectors. You grab a set of XYZ injectors off someone's website, adjust your global fuel scale and deadtime tables based on what they told you the injectors flowed and drive off. The fuel injector scaling is also higher for the 9055 compared to 9653, and it happens to be just about right to offset the different in MAF Scaling. Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 4:57 am . Log in | Sign up. As has been discussed many times on this forum, changing the low slope / breakpoint / deadtime offset affects the amount of fuel delivered at higher pulse widths. The 0. ECU Type: The injector scaling is a 680 with PTE 780's , boost is at about 15 psi. Ordering process: If you need help with the basic ordering process, You can definitely change all these settings yourself at any time, including injector compensation and MAF type or switch to speed density, etc. 5%. See less See more List:-Clipse3GT Tune -SC Built 2. 32 → 20 ECMLink (V3) is an all-in-one datalogging, real-time tuning, and reflashing package for your 1990-1999 DSM. The vehicle has been running pretty rough and rich (afr shows idling at around 10-11) even after I did adjust the injector scaling to 750cc, I was showed how to do that at the very least. If needed, change BoostEst to your respective engine size. 00:18 those that have a 5 bar map may have issues with their speed density table looking a bit, "rough". & Full The injectors are supposedly PTE 950cc (that's what is engraved on them), but I don't see much information about them online as far as scaling and deadtime are concerned. We provide full details on how to configure ECMLink for EVO8 operation here, including new timing and fuel maps copied directly from the EVO8 ECU. If the injector stays open for 13ms during this 17ms “window”, you get an IDC of 76. It's been reviewed by the experts and creators of DSMLink for accuracy. Don't have much experience with ecmlink only been using it as a diagnosis tool. ECMlink Injector Data Sheets. Thread starter 1990TSIAWDTALON; Start date Sep 1, 2021; Tags data sheets dead time fuel injectors latency This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others. The 2150 injector is a great injector when you need serious flow. This table is indexed by battery voltage and provides an appropriate deadtime adjustment at the corresponding voltage. 8% Larger "MAF Total" - Fuel Tables ECMlink Swapping 2g MAF with EVO 8 MAF. Figured I'd throw it up on here since we have some DSM's and I think a few of you have asked me about DSMLink. So I’m thinking I’ll use the EVO scaling number of 424 for my injectors. Quote; itcy. Post subject: Re: Injector Scaling at low pulse width / non linear scale. 1G TPS does not have the idle switch built in so should Enable for sure. Car runs great In the direct access area of ECMLink, there is a table called InjBatteryAdj. from what i can find they are a PTE injector but I am trying to find proper deadtimes and global for e85 conversion. 07-15-2015 #5. The ECU uses this table to calculate the required IPW and will have a specific value for every type of injector. This does assume both injectors are rated at the same pressure. Hovering the mouse over it brings a help bar that reads "Pressure per volts scaling of this sensor". 6ms at idle, now they are 0. Dsmlink offers a free download able patch that eliminates this code from popping up. , which accurately measures the microscopic volume of fluid dispensed while it is being operated by a car’s ECU. 10 → 23 Inverts coil control for proper firing order 23 → 10 (LEAVE 10 AND 23 ALONE IF YOU'RE USING A 97 ECUDO NOT SWAP) . Links i j Step 4: MAF/Injector Scaling. ECUflash Low injector scaling vs actual flow rate. 0 = 0. As voltage drops, injector response changes. In my settings Injector Rated Fuel Pressure is set as 300kpa, and my fuel regulator is adjusted at 300kpa. ECMlink Rochester Products 1000cc injectors dead time and global. ECMLink 101 - Initial checks. forge recirculating bov t04b turbo with internal waistgate ported evo Getting it to idle in Closed Loop is one of the ways to dial in the deadtime assuming your global is close to the actual injectors. As long as you have TPS set up correctly in DSMlink then Enabling it should be better. Fuel Injector Clinic (FIC) 650-31: 210: Fuel Injector Clinic (FIC) 750-40: 330: Fuel Injector Clinic (FIC) 850-47: 330: Fuel Injector Clinic (FIC) 950-53: 330: Fuel Injector Clinic (FIC) Also remember that there is a viscosity difference between E85 and 93 octane that is not accounted for in ECMlink when the global suggestions are calculated. 00:11: Now, we already know that we're running the factory injectors, and we're running the factory MAF sensor in the factory housing. An injector has issues maintaining a linear Injector Flow Rate (IFR) during small pulse operation. 33lb/min limit. ECMlink ID1050X injector issues. This method provides tuners with the best possible injector data to G/Rev = Grams Per Rev, used by DSMLink. Thank TD, the id1000's now idle better. This is the list of the main things that need to be re-ordered. On older PCMs, this is around 8. For the most part, 'Link will take care Now it's time to scale your injector size down by 0. 01:37: The more sophisticated ECUs however from the likes of Ford and GM, the injectors are dealt with more thoroughly and complete characterization data is required by the ECU. Thread starter Justin DuBois; Start date Jan 28, 2022; I chased this problem in my buddy's 97 gsx last year, all checked out perfect. maybe I misunderstood, but I'm interpreting the initial question as how to calculate injector size necessary when switching to e85. You can also get a quick idea of how ECMLink works by watching various demo videos. They are arbitrary and this directly affects them If you're running EVO8 injectors with your ECMLink-equipped ECU, here are some numbers you can use to get the ECU configured to match identically with the EVO8 ECU you'll need to adjust the global fuel scale accordingly. In this webinar we’ll look at how this can be done on the ECMLink provides access to the factory deadtime adjustment table in the DirectAccess tab. I have in question the idea of scaling the injectors to a lower flow than they really are. RomRaider Donator: Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:57 pm Posts: 60 Location: Land of Kangaroos. I have a set of FIC 750cc injectors that were in my 99 gst when I bought it. i can drive around town no problems but when i drive down the highway and push in the clutch and let it coast it stalls. (6% bigger injector scaling. You take the fuel injector scale in ms/% times the long term idle fuel trim in % and that gives you the long term idle fuel trim in ms. ECMlink New injectors wont start. 3) using system tools-tps adjust-Evo timing and fuel tables! Hi everyone! This is the second part in our "learning ecmlink v3" mini series. Latest: DirtMcGirt; 95 GST "SKYE" Latest: chrysler kid '91 TSI AWD 75k mile time capsule. - In the next step of the tuning process, we're going to address our mass airflow sensor scaling as well as our fuel injector scaling if that's applicable. This is due to scaling. Here is my math I came up with to change my Injector Flow rate VS KPA VAC table. 1% globals you just plug that in. Mar 25 you opposite click on injector scaling click edit map then hit scalings and it has dsm scaling and evo. t You can also get a quick idea of how ECMLink works by watching various demo videos. Thread starter Blue_1gb; Start date Dec 1, 2023; This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including Well, it's just a scale (super cheap at that), so no. 7 (for the evoscan formula) and . Injectors actually flow 940cc so I used that number instead of 1000cc. Alright, i guess FIC discontinued this injector set at some point. 2150. A lower (more negative) global value means "calculate fuel flow based on injectors that are x% larger than stock". After putting the car back together, it started up and ran well enough on the EcuFlash/Ceddy Mods tune (with MAF) to drive to a car show a few miles away. ECMlink FIC 950cc injector issues. If you're running regular pump gas, then just leave the Fitting larger injectors is a common upgrade when modifying a car, however scaling these new injectors correctly inside a factory ECU is a key step to getting your tune dialled in. im running pte 1200ccs for the scaling its set at 1194 and the latency is ECMlink ECMLink - LinkTools. Just a quick question, I nuked my rear turbo and ran the impeller through most of my intake, so have stripped everything off and decided to put larger injectors in while it's mostly disassembled (/backstory) Anyway, have done that and tried to reprogram injector scalings but to no avail. Those who scale Injector flow scaling or reference flow, and injector latency or dead time. Fuel Injector Clinic (FIC) 650-31: 210: Fuel Injector Clinic (FIC) 750-40: 330: Fuel Injector Clinic (FIC) 850-47: 330: Fuel Injector Clinic (FIC) 950-53: 330: The Global fuel and Deadtime adjustments are intended to be used mainly to compensate for injector flow rate and fuel pressure that differ from stock. So now you can calculate your new global fuel using the standard formulas and 570 cc/min injector size instead A very basic tuning example showing how to use the datalogging and tuning integration in ECMLink to make a simple change to one of the ignition Options and Scaling : ECU - Initial setup : A walk through on the initial setup of your ECU's basic configuration items (injectors and airflow) along with a simple TPS adjustment example. ECU Type: ECMLink (V3) Laptop Application Changelog. 0L, 2. I am currently dsmlink v3 tuned on evo 8 660cc injectors which are causing some starting issues for me so i am looking to upgrade, what injectors should i go to? the guy who tuned my car recommended rc 1000cc, i was thinking 850cc. Just enter in the size fuel injector you purchased. You can calculate the amount to move the sliders if you understand absolute pressure and how to calculate scale factors. Standalone datalogger as an O2 so I did move the ground to directly next to the ECU no change. Adjustment = 450 / 720 – 1. Remember that if you are still running the in-tank regulator (no manifold referenced regulator at the rail), then the IFR table still needs to be able to model the increase in flow as the intake Injectors are thought of as simple devices. I've been using CMR for about 5 years now and the first thing I learned about injector scaling is that you have to have good offset data to properly scale injectors Some tuners leave the offsets alone, and you're 100% right, it's the WRONG way to do it. i ECMLink (V3) Laptop Application Changelog. The injectors in this case were FIC 850s running at 43. We finally got my car up and running. Watched ECMlink how-to videos? no, My flow sheet is at 1139, so I have 1107 in the cc/min injector scaling section in Ecuflash. I also made a map showing when the different areas of the Timing Map are used. But the 1650s were named based on their static flow rate. Should I use any of those for the scaling or just add to it a little at a time till the car doesn't stall when I kick my fans on? You can also get a quick idea of how ECMLink works by watching various demo videos. ECMLink 1G Cable Install: Dec 14, 2008 155K PDF: ECMLink Flash Device Install: Feb 26, 2009 704K PDF: EPROM chip removal on a 2G ECU : May 24, 2010 358K PDF: Non-EPROM Conversion Notes: May 18, 2009 304K PDF: GM MAF Cable Install: Sep 21, 2012 2. Where BaseFuelPressure is specified in PSI and Injector scaling and default timing/fuel maps. This is a table of injector offsets to apply based on battery voltage. • Select your injectors/MAF or leave a note on your order. It's a 99 gst spyder. Apr 30, 2018 #2 d1prospect. Downloads page. I'm going to be using my eace gas maps and I'll put afr to target 11. 330. If you've wanted to run more than 4 injectors, here you go. The stock ECU assumes that the car is equipped with 450 cc/min injectors and a fuel pressure of either 37 psi (1G) or 42. Thread starter gst-turbo; Start date Apr 30, 2018; This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including Any help and advise would be appreciated. you will need to take this into account when calculating the global fuel scale and, to some extent, the dead time as well. You also need to configure information about the fuel you're running. I'll keep the afr map i posted. 625 – 1. The latency map is in ms, not ms/% like injector scale. 5 my cruise and my wot. Move ground directly to ECU case?! I feel like DSMLink is ignoring the wideband. One quick glance at the screen tells me instantly if I'm close to hitting the critical point for my injectors. Basic boltons, speed density, hks bov , ets front mount. There is a tab labeled "psi/volts(user defined scale)". Mar 15, 2024 1. 1. A good example of this is the injector duty cycle, which I have set at min = 0, max = 80. So now you can calculate your new global fuel using the standard formulas and 570 cc/min injector size instead The global fuel parameter is a scaling factor that gets applied to the factory fuel calculations, based on injector size. 22 → 8 Swaps Fuel pump relay and AC relay control 8 → 22 . my idle fuel trim is at 6. Pay careful attention to all axis values, threshold values, etc. On idle ECMLink (V3) Laptop Application Changelog. 2014 Camaro SS. I ended up using ecmlink to turn off the individual injectors to see what would happen. Then you enter in the injector scaling table a number between 578 and 544. There is EVO8 settings: The section that used to be here for EVO8 injectors has been moved to the more specific EVO8 V3 settings page. 8 volt will be input at 1590. ECMlink FIC 1680 Scaling Trouble. In the InjBatteryAdj table in direct access, set the table like so: Volts usecs; 7: 2295: 9: 1400: 12: 890 Deadtime is listed as an adjustment to be entered into the ECMLink application, which is then applied on top of the calculated stock adjustment. So at 7000 rpm and with our set of test conditions, the ECU has 17ms of time available to open an injector, close it, and then open it again at the start of the next cycle. zjw deaaoewt bhffy uislpv mvjjbwzy sui paprl tjal ezuohj hxqdda